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BeoSound 5 - search function for Spotify released

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petermc Posted: Thu, Jul 4 2013 12:42 AM
Just noticed an update on the Beosound 5 for Spotify with a search function now available.

Yes it does work but kind of reminds me of how I used to send a text message on my Nokia mobile 15 years ago....

When Spotify was released Bang & Olufsen said "at Bang & Olufsen we are constantly working to enhance our products in order to not only satisfy the expectations of our customers but to exceed them....."

It's still easier to do the search on the phone/iPad/computer and push it onto Spotify.

Come on B&O - you can do better than this. Start satisfying our expectations.

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Can you  search by beo 6 ??

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Jul 4 2013 5:11 AM
Just updated my Beosound 5. Great update!

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lano replied on Thu, Jul 4 2013 5:32 AM
Razlaw:

Just updated my Beosound 5. Great update!

Any information on what the update contains? Only the search function on BS5? What about search on Beo6 or the Beolink app (mlgw)?
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petermc:
Just noticed an update on the Beosound 5 for Spotify with a search function now available.

 

 

Yes it does work but kind of reminds me of how I used to send a text message on my Nokia mobile 15 years ago....

 

 

In my honest opinion, stop nagging!

 

What did you expect? After an update suddenly having a touchscreen on your BS5? A keyboard which flips from behind?

 

When did you buy your BS5? 

Several years ago when they released the BS5, Spotify wasn't as common as it is today.

So, give me an example of a another brand product which adds features like the BS5 does, beside an iPad or any other "touchscreen" device.

Easy searching without having a keyboard will always be  a problem.

So, when Spotify came available, members/owners wanted Spotify. B&O added on request.

Then the complaint came about the missing search function. B&O added on request again.

As Spotify can be used on multiple devices, like both a mobile, pc or iPad, playlists are synchronized automatically on all devices.

 

So, give me an idea how B&O should solve your search function instead of complaining.

 

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I agree with Beobuddy, difficult to make a search funktion without touch-screen. You have to work with the product, incuding its limitations. But the nice thing about this upgrade is the ability to ad ALBUMS and PLAYLIST to a designated number, not just the colorred preset buttons. Maybe the Beo6 will be upgraded aswell with search funktion ! Or even the Beoremote app or othe IOS.

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olvisab replied on Thu, Jul 4 2013 8:54 AM

 

Very good news. Thanks b&o for this improvement.

One BIG THING IS MISSING, an index of artist when searching into big collection.

 

When I open the beomaster 5 hard drive from my dlna tv I can see an index of the artist name (abc, def, ...), it should be possible to do the same thing from the bs5.

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koning replied on Thu, Jul 4 2013 3:22 PM

Beobuddy:

petermc:
Just noticed an update on the Beosound 5 for Spotify with a search function now available.

 

 

Yes it does work but kind of reminds me of how I used to send a text message on my Nokia mobile 15 years ago....

 

 

In my honest opinion, stop nagging!

 

What did you expect? After an update suddenly having a touchscreen on your BS5? A keyboard which flips from behind?

 

When did you buy your BS5? 

Several years ago when they released the BS5, Spotify wasn't as common as it is today.

So, give me an example of a another brand product which adds features like the BS5 does, beside an iPad or any other "touchscreen" device.

Easy searching without having a keyboard will always be  a problem.

So, when Spotify came available, members/owners wanted Spotify. B&O added on request.

Then the complaint came about the missing search function. B&O added on request again.

As Spotify can be used on multiple devices, like both a mobile, pc or iPad, playlists are synchronized automatically on all devices.

 

So, give me an idea how B&O should solve your search function instead of complaining.

 

ipad app maybe?

just like Creation5.

 

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stefan replied on Thu, Jul 4 2013 4:45 PM

It`s not only a "search" function update. You can also create favourites with color buttons and playlists via number buttons like the N.MUSIC functions.

There are also three ADD and two ACTION (?) functions.

I`m searching Spotify directly on the ipad or on my Mac book over the day.

In the evening back home, I`ve the time to LISTEN to the music via BS5, so I don`t really miss the search function.

Next step could be to install a Spotify remote function like remoteless on Beolink app to get two way function like in N.MUSIC mode.

Beo, please one wish: would be great to have a function that just plays the latest addition to Spotify.

I could think of A.MEM - 0 or A.MEM - select long....(?)

Thanks

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symmes replied on Thu, Jul 4 2013 5:19 PM

"Beo, please one wish: would be great to have a function that just plays the latest addition to Spotify."

Appears the newest Spotify release no longer shows most recent additions.  All I get is recommendations.  Wonder if that change is worldwide or if I messed up a setting somewhere.

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Jul 4 2013 6:41 PM
The update screen also mentioned adding items to the star list with Beo 4.

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linder replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 4:11 PM

I loaded the Beosound update for Spotify and played one of my playlists.  After about 10 mins, the system halts with a solid blue screen.  My Beosound 5 was halting periodically after the last update.  With the recent Spotify updates, the Beosound 5/BMS started to become useful.  Unfortunately for me the Beomaster 5 is failing.

I am aware this will be expensive to fix or replace and may end up in the dustbin of history.  Normally I would consider upgrading to a new Beomaster 5 but with the uncertainty of B&O's product direction this seems like the end of my Beosound 5.

Here are a few reasons I hesitate to purchase anymore B&O products.

1. The NL networking makes all of my ML systems obsolete unless I purchase a $900 USD converter box.  This make all my analog sources digital.  Not a good option.

2. I don't like BeoPlay products.  I have a Beolit 12 purchased new and is less than satisfactory.  Wireless mode is 2008 tech and is clumsy.

3. B&O has failed to present us with a product roadmap.  I have no idea what I should look forward to over the next year.  Recent history suggests less expensive but mediocre products.

4. Finally, the worldwide economic problems could be the end of B&O.  As difficult as that is to contemplate, it is a very real possibility.

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Can an Encore stream Spotify or does it purely play music via a hard drive?. Have no interest in CDs .

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NO. You can NOT use Spotify on  Encore.

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symmes replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 5:58 PM

symmes:

"Beo, please one wish: would be great to have a function that just plays the latest addition to Spotify."

Appears the newest Spotify release no longer shows most recent additions.  All I get is recommendations.  Wonder if that change is worldwide or if I messed up a setting somewhere.

And then noticed on the BeoSound 5 that "new releases" DOES still show up.  Who would have thought?

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I am so glad I sold my Bs5. Terrible product and when I read this and similar threads it reminds me of my hopes being dashed at every cycle of update. The hardware was 5 years out of date when released in 2009 and since its release its software updates have looked more and more antiquated, rushed and unfinished.

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Jeff replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 6:16 PM

seethroughyou:
I am so glad I sold my Bs5. Terrible product and when I read this and similar threads it reminds me of my hopes being dashed at every cycle of update. The hardware was 5 years out of date when released in 2009 and since its release its software updates have looked more and more antiquated, rushed and unfinished.

Well, I'm sure we're all very happy for you, but isn't there a 12 Step program, grief counseling, something that might help you get over the trauma? You really seem to dwell on this to a level that appears unhealthy...

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Simbohm replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 6:42 PM
Another user interface improvement.... If you have link rooms, the volume control does did not work on the BS5 (the logic was - which rooms volume does the bs5 change). I have a BV10 in the same room as my BS5 and this was annoying, since I had to find a remote to change the volume (Esp for the wife when I slip the remote in my pocket and walk around the house-opps).

Now, you can control the volume in the room from the bs5 volume control... Thankfully - just a great usability function.
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Jeff, Sarcasm from you...not a suprise response and highly predictable. if I didn't know as much about you as I do I would assume you were a teenager who had regrettably discovered sarcasm which in adulthood is rather unoriginal and deeply tiresome. The comment seems to have affected you so much that you felt it necessary to get in my face by making a personal and passive aggressive comment about me which typifies this and your last interaction with me in another thread. It must be concluded that you deliberately engineer provocative and inflammatory remarks about me. I am at liberty to express my poor opinion of the Bs5 after having spent £thousands on it in addition to being at liberty to expressing affection for other products and B&O in general. Others are able to do so I take issue with your response when I do. The report abuse button doesn't work and causes an error response so is it at all possible that you could refrain from being so unbelievably rude and confine your comments to products and not to other members? I hope this question about your capability to be civil in future threads does not become rhetorical...

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Jeff replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 6:46 PM

Apparently complaining about products that you no longer own is what passes for a hobby with you. 

I'd add that unlike you, I pay to help keep this site alive, as such I find comments from the peanut gallery who's sole purpose are to whine, complain, and denigrate the very company this site is designed to support to be obnoxious and in bad taste. 

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Get used to it Jeff. Not only do I do it so do others. It's called 'reflection'. Could you possibly proceed to reflect on your personality which responds in maladaptive fashion by refraining to be so personal about others? This will not be the first or last time you encounter people reflecting on their experiences whether it be positive or negative whether they own a product or did in the past. It's the nature of forums and if this grates and makes you 'stew' then a coping strategy will have to be discovered by you or abstaining from participating from forum discussions may be another solution.

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Strange remarks about people not being happy about BS5, on a thread about Spotify search funktion !

Not really the issue here. If you dont like, so be it- but what is your point ?

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Jeff replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 7:10 PM

gysse2004:

Strange remarks about people not being happy about BS5, on a thread about Spotify search funktion !

Not really the issue here. If you dont like, so be it- but what is your point ?

Peter

I suspect it's because what most view as a tedious diatribe the complainer views as a social life. My precious laptop was a POS, but you don't see me on the manufacturers site whining about it constantly. 

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Gysse2004, you don't get the point. Really? You don't get the point about a function not working properly, the software being incomplete, the lack of attention to a device costing thousands, the frustration of people who wait eagerly to find its still got issues and problems, the multiple threads by a multitude here who feel B&O are being a tad inattentive and sloppy with this product...

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Jeff replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 7:14 PM

As for see whatever, you're like a person who walks into a party, spits in the punchbowl. And then gets all huffy when people don't like it. 

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linder:

I loaded the Beosound update for Spotify and played one of my playlists.  After about 10 mins, the system halts with a solid blue screen.  My Beosound 5 was halting periodically after the last update.  With the recent Spotify updates, the Beosound 5/BMS started to become useful.  Unfortunately for me the Beomaster 5 is failing.

If the problem occurred after the update, then it's unlikely the hardware that fails.

You can do a system recovery, which loads the standard software installed on the harddrive and installs the update afterwards.

Your music will be unaffected by the recovery. Your content is stored on a different part of the harddrive and will be unaffected by the whole procedure.

BTW, if it's the hardware, several things can be done before throwing it at the bin.

 

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Jeff, this is forum and people can express their positive and negative comments about products and their development or lack of. You are failing to grasp this elementary concept. But unlike you I confine it to the products whereas you get personal which is distasteful and that is why i am getting in a 'huff' about it and i will continue to pick you up on this from this point onwards. Are you telling me you are incapable of being personal...?

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seethroughyou:
Gysse2004, you don't get the point. Really? You don't get the point about a function not working properly, the software being incomplete, the lack of attention to a device costing thousands, the frustration of people who wait eagerly to find its still got issues and problems, the multiple threads by a multitude here who feel B&O are being a tad inattentive and sloppy with this product...

As already said. The system was released already some time ago. It was introduced functioning properly.

But then the requests came in, people wanted to copy their cd's, an axtra auxilary through USB, ability to add an NAS, 2 way communication via Beo6.

I think it inevitable that problems occurs, especcially when there numerous configurations. Combinations with existing beosounds ectetera.

It's always the same story. Complaints enough to read, but the proper working sets/owners hardly. 

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Razlaw replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 7:33 PM
I think a new record may have been set with this thread. It actually made it through 15 posts and two days before someone had to jump in with an off topic post whose sole purpose seems to be to complain about B and O.

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Deos anybody know if there is updates about IOS or Beo6 search funktion ? As this would make is really complete.

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Razlaw, the Bs5 and its progression may deserve both praise and criticism however in the opinion of some (like me) the balance is tilted to the latter and if like Jeff you get find it intolerable reading responses about B&O being slack again and again when they deliver updates/upgrades then I would suggest to you the same advice I gave to Jeff earlier.

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The hardware was 5 years out of date when released in 2009

Then, why in the wide world of sports did you buy one?

Sounds like you only have yourself to complain about ... Start another thread!

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Jeff replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 7:48 PM

Beobuddy:

seethroughyou:
Gysse2004, you don't get the point. Really? You don't get the point about a function not working properly, the software being incomplete, the lack of attention to a device costing thousands, the frustration of people who wait eagerly to find its still got issues and problems, the multiple threads by a multitude here who feel B&O are being a tad inattentive and sloppy with this product...

As already said. The system was released already some time ago. It was introduced functioning properly.

But then the requests came in, people wanted to copy their cd's, an axtra auxilary through USB, ability to add an NAS, 2 way communication via Beo6.

I think it inevitable that problems occurs, especcially when there numerous configurations. Combinations with existing beosounds ectetera.

It's always the same story. Complaints enough to read, but the proper working sets/owners hardly. 

Your comment about different configurations is spot on, if you'll pardon the pun. This is one reason Apple doesn't seem to have the same issues MS does, they tightly control the hardware aspect whereas MS long ago decided to focus on supporting the largest hardware base possible. 

This probably also explains why B&O has not thrown as much development into the BS5E. At first this puzzled me, as it seemed a better approach, provide the interface device to use someone else's storage and computer solution. I was in favor of that due to price and the fact it would allow flexibility. Upon further thought, a small company like B&O probably decided that keeping up with adding more and more functionality to a device where they didn't control the HW aspect or supporting SW applications was way beyond what a small firm with limited SW development people could do well, and opted for putting most of their effort into the BS5 where they have more control and understanding of the HW. Given that even this approach has apparently had hiccups, it is probably a wise one. 

My solution for my needs has been to use a music server computer where I choose the HW and SW that suits my needs and stream to a Playmaker connected to my Beosound. This works fine for me, but I think the BS5 is sexy, and if my Beosound went belly up I'd buy one if fixing it wasn't an option. 

Ultimately no one outside of B&O knows why they make the decisions they do, we can only guess.

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Then, why in the wide world of sports did you buy one?

Sounds like you only have yourself to complain about ... Start another thread!

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Because I was misled by the B&O salesman who sold it to me.

No I will not start a new thread. If you can't tolerate reading forum threads that disagree you will need to go elsewhere. This is a forum and not a mutual appreciation society where we all have to tow the party line in a dictatorship.

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seethroughyou:
I am so glad I sold my Bs5. Terrible product and when I read this and similar threads it reminds me of my hopes being dashed at every cycle of update. The hardware was 5 years out of date when released in 2009 and since its release its software updates have looked more and more antiquated, rushed and unfinished.

I don't understand correctly, I think.

I assume you bought the BS5 for it's functions/features at that moment at the dealers place? I also assume that it worked correctly when placed and demonstrated by your dealer. Otherwise you would probably have ordered your dealer to take it all back.

You don't buy a system for it's pronounced or (your) expected features? 

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Bv7Mk3 replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 8:08 PM
I love my Bs 5 :-) used it every day! right now sitting in the garden having fish & chips yum listening to the garden speakers...

And YES I'm one of the few people that not too bothered about Spotify as have enough home music also Internet Radio to keep me happy!

This item for me has got better over time. I moved from a cd 3200 to the 5

Yes it should of had Hdmi not Dvi ect..

This does not stop it being the unit for some owners.

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Jeff replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 8:23 PM

Bv7Mk3:
I love my Bs 5 :-) used it every day! right now sitting in the garden having fish & chips yum listening to the garden speakers...

 

And YES I'm one of the few people that not too bothered about Spotify as have enough home music also Internet Radio to keep me happy!

 

This item for me has got better over time. I moved from a cd 3200 to the 5

 

Yes it should of had Hdmi not Dvi ect..

 

This does not stop it being the unit for some owners.

 

 

Subversive! Counter revolutionary! Unclean! Laughing

How dare you interrupt Occupy Beoworlds Two Minutes Hate!

Seriously though, it's nice to hear from a satisfied owner for a change. I can see the benefits of the BS5 approach, there are times I find updating PC s/w seems to always occur when I want to listen to music, but not enough to sacrifice my current approach. Maybe someday I'll decide the occasional irritation is worth it, but not while my current system is working. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if my BS died and wasn't repairable. 

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BTW, no offence, but the hardware does the job just fine. You don't need a 6 core 3,4 ghz proccessor with 16 GB memory etcetera.

Just a reliable, low powerconsuming mainboard is sufficient.

I think it's rather clever that on remote not only the OS can be updated, but also the mainboard's BIOS and the ML board's aswell.

It's a bit like updating your cars system management while driving it...

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seethroughyou:
Because I was misled by the B&O salesman who sold it to me.

I am sorry.

Having reviewed your months and months' worth of BS5 posts and dealer interaction commentary in the archived forum, you must have genuinely been misled.

Carry on.

 

P.S. If not too much trouble, could you provide me with this salesman's contact info? I'd hire and pay him double yesterday.

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Puncher replied on Fri, Jul 5 2013 8:34 PM

seethroughyou:
No I will not start a new thread. If you can't tolerate reading forum threads that disagree you will need to go elsewhere. This is a forum and not a mutual appreciation society where we all have to tow the party line in a dictatorship.

My, you seem to have changed your tune!

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Puncher, If unrelated opinions are what you want to give may I suggest you open a new thread entitled "I can derail a thread whenever i like and when I'm asked to stick to a topic by members I will become defensive and cite my freedom of speech"

Ban boring signatures!

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