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A close up, in the background you see a little sticker marking one of two transport screws for the speakers. These must be removed (and saved for later moves).
The thick manual, stating a 85 inch version is upcoming.
It's thick because it contains every spoken language in the free world. 2 pages for every language. That's it.
I hide as much as i can in the room behind the solid brick wall. I drilled a hole for all the cables. You ca see it behind the cable mess on the floor. Here I will place the bluray-player once I decided which one to go for. Also the Apple-TV will end up here, no need to hang on the telly. I will wait to see if a new version is coming later this year before I buy one.
In the same room the Queen Mother is standing, still connected to the Master Link system and an AirPort Express. This gives me AirPlay all over the house (and a link speaker in the heating room).
And finally a picture of the Avant up and running. The premiere movie was Frozen. Even if it just was DVD from Xbox360 it was stunning picture and sound. Can't wait until I get a Bluray player. Sorry for the cable mess. It will be there until antenna from satellite dish and cable from BR is in place. Then I will also mount the back covers on the Avant. Now standing against the left wall.
Behind the TV is the black sock for hiding cables.
I will let the XBox360 stand where it is. A stand is available from STB brackets, but I think it will be just fine where it is, nothing that bothers me.
Just updated the other thread, but the breaking news is that Avant installations are on hold due to issues with the contrast screen. Mine was due to be installed today (and is with my dealer), but B&O have issued a message to dealers saying that they need to put further installations on hold until the issue is resolved/looked in to.
Anyone have any more info on this?
85 inch ? Now that's more like it !
4k on screen that big should look awesome.
moxxey: Just updated the other thread, but the breaking news is that Avant installations are on hold due to issues with the contrast screen. Mine was due to be installed today (and is with my dealer), but B&O have issued a message to dealers saying that they need to put further installations on hold until the issue is resolved/looked in to. Anyone have any more info on this?
Sorry to hear that moxxey, i for one was looking forward to hearing your opinions and thoughts about your avant. I do wonder however what the issues are and what actions B&O are planning to take in regards to the contrast screen?
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markiedee:Sorry to hear that moxxey, i for one was looking forward to hearing your opinions and thoughts about your avant. I do wonder however what the issues are and what actions B&O are planning to take in regards to the constrast screen?
All I know it's something to do with the contrast screen (not properly sealed?). Dealers were only informed last night and were told to put Avant installations on hold.
I'm starting to wonder whether this Avant was slightly rushed to market, with the stand issues and now the contrast screen. Another very good reason why I'd never 'upgrade' to one from a tried-and-tested market-leading BV7-55!
They have actually stopped production of the Avant for the next two weeks. I have been waiting for my replacement after my issues with excessive dirt under the screen, motor problems and indeed motion issues with the actual screen. It seems these problems are not isolated and they are taking the time to address all the issues and tighten up the quality control on the production.
Solidsnake: They have actually stopped production of the Avant for the next two weeks. I have been waiting for my replacement after my issues with excessive dirt under the screen...
They have actually stopped production of the Avant for the next two weeks. I have been waiting for my replacement after my issues with excessive dirt under the screen...
Yes, I think that's the reason why B&O has told the dealers to stop planned installs - dirt/marks under the contrast screen.
Annoyed now. In hindsight, I should have moved across to the BV11-55. Still love my BV11, just would have liked a larger version for the World Cup ;)
B&O will obviously sort these issues out as quickly as they can and hopefully with the excellent customer service we are used to along the way. What a shame though as this is undoubtedly going to cost them. I do feel they rushed this TV too. I think they have with several other products too. I loved my BeoSound 3 loads but after a year or so it had to go back for a refund because after 4 attempts at fixing the top half they still couldn't get it right. Such a shame.
The comments from earlier adopters now make complete sense as they were all around dust and dirt being visible under the screen.
I don't think anyone wanted production to move outside of Denmark, myself included. Always down to money though, which on the one hand is understandable but on the other can incur just as much cost in other ways. I really hope B&O never compromise on build quality.
B&O products are V1-32, BS2, H95, E8 and an Essence remote.11-46 now replaced with Sony A90J 65”, Sony HT-A9, Sony UBP-X800M2 and Sony SRS-NS7.
I wonder what people will do who have taken receipt and setup their Avant? What are your plans?
Clearly there are a number of production issues with the Avant. I was told this evening, as an example, that dealers are receiving replacement Avant floor stands with specific installation instructions (and these instructions are already incorrectly labelled).
Yup, tricky one this. Total respect for those setting up themselves. I'd rather leave it to the pros for expertise and insurance purposes especially.
moxxey: I wonder what people will do who have taken receipt and setup their Avant? What are your plans? Clearly there are a number of production issues with the Avant. I was told this evening, as an example, that dealers are receiving replacement Avant floor stands with specific installation instructions (and these instructions are already incorrectly labelled).
If I were to guess I would say that there is far too much technical content, changing far too quickly for a relatively small company to hang on and meet it's committed introduction schedules without taking calculated risks and cutting the odd corner here and there!
Ban boring signatures!
The Beonic Man:Yup, tricky one this. Total respect for those setting up themselves. I'd rather leave it to the pros for expertise and insurance purposes especially. We can rebuild him...we have the technology.
I haven't performed a CSI test on the screen, but no problems so far for me. The stand and speakers aren't 100 % quite during moving, but they doesn't sound much so no problems there either for me. The installation was easy to perform.
I shall take a close look at the screen. If it's OK the Avant will stay unless B&O calls it back.
Daniel: Started with the small box. It contained 3D glasses and the remote. Oh, I already love the remote. The setup was very Apple inspired with the box, the little boxes for the battery and manual. And you get a small pin (like the SIM for iPhone/iPad) to open for the battery. Display starts with an elegant Bang & Olufsen followed by a selection for language. That's it. As the TV is still in the box I tested it on the LC1. Worked so easy, no need for the manual.
Started with the small box. It contained 3D glasses and the remote. Oh, I already love the remote. The setup was very Apple inspired with the box, the little boxes for the battery and manual. And you get a small pin (like the SIM for iPhone/iPad) to open for the battery. Display starts with an elegant Bang & Olufsen followed by a selection for language. That's it. As the TV is still in the box I tested it on the LC1. Worked so easy, no need for the manual.
Daniel, did you get 3d glasses with yours or did you pay extra for them? What did they cost if you had to pay for them? I got no 3d glasses :(.
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Michael: Daniel, did you get 3d glasses with yours or did you pay extra for them? What did they cost if you had to pay for them? I got no 3d glasses :(.
I got one pair as they didn't have to drive 125 km one way for the installation. I was going to survey the market for another brand on the glasses as I believe B&O doesn't make them by themself and uses a Samsung (?) screen. I visited Elgiganten, MediaMarkt and so on, but it was a jungle and they didn't know anything about it. Every brand had their own glasses, and sometimes different glasses within the same brand (like Samsung).
The price differed as well from 300 SEK (30 €) to 1 000 SEK (100 €). As the B&O glasses costs 1 200 SEK I guess they are in the same league as the Samsung for 1 000 SEK. I decided to buy an extra pair from B&O and they send them home for me so I now have at least 2 pairs. With 2 kids in the house it will be a smart move. Also the B&O glasses looks very nice and are comfortable to wear.
I will bring one pair with me to Elgiganten to find out if the work on any of their sets, and then test the glasses for that TV at home.
According to the shop they only sell glasses to every 20th TV or so, so only a few percent of the buyers order glasses from B&O. If they buy from another brand, or simply doesn't care about 3D he didn't know.
But you got some champagne, which I didn't!
Back home from SF?
Daniel:I got one pair as they didn't have to drive 125 km one way for the installation. I was going to survey the market for another brand on the glasses as I believe B&O doesn't make them by themself and uses a Samsung (?) screen. I visited Elgiganten, MediaMarkt and so on, but it was a jungle and they didn't know anything about it. Every brand had their own glasses, and sometimes different glasses within the same brand (like Samsung). The price differed as well from 300 SEK (30 €) to 1 000 SEK (100 €). As the B&O glasses costs 1 200 SEK I guess they are in the same league as the Samsung for 1 000 SEK. I decided to buy an extra pair from B&O and they send them home for me so I now have at least 2 pairs. With 2 kids in the house it will be a smart move. Also the B&O glasses looks very nice and are comfortable to wear. I will bring one pair with me to Elgiganten to find out if the work on any of their sets, and then test the glasses for that TV at home. According to the shop they only sell glasses to every 20th TV or so, so only a few percent of the buyers order glasses from B&O. If they buy from another brand, or simply doesn't care about 3D he didn't know. But you got some champagne, which I didn't! Back home from SF?
Just whatched Brazil-Croatia in World Cup on SVT HD. Amazing picture.
Michael:"The issue concerning the missing interface on UHD sources will be solved in a future software update. We will make sure you are notified as soon as the software is ready".
This is good news! I hope the dealer is correct.In the meanwhile, I'll wait a little longer, until my current LG dies. Unfortunately, that is the precondition for buying a new set in terms of the WAF (or in my case the BAF).
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crossbytje: In the meanwhile, I'll wait a little longer, until my current LG dies. Unfortunately, that is the precondition for buying a new set in terms of the WAF (or in my case the BAF).
In the meanwhile, I'll wait a little longer, until my current LG dies. Unfortunately, that is the precondition for buying a new set in terms of the WAF (or in my case the BAF).
When she's not around, throw a bucket of water at the TV :)
That is an idea!
Oh well, let B&O first sort things out with the new avant, I'm patient and enjoy the phase prior to buying, getting to know all about the product. Eventually, on many occasions, I'm better informed than the salesman by the time I get my money out of my pocket.
crossbytje: That is an idea! Oh well, let B&O first sort things out with the new avant, I'm patient and enjoy the phase prior to buying, getting to know all about the product. Eventually, on many occasions, I'm better informed than the salesman by the time I get my money out of my pocket.
I visited my dealer yesterday and I told him "bad stuff about the avant and the production halt". He (and his boss) did not have any clue... After looking up on the intranet they discovered the alert from B&O...
I will be waiting too - no rush whatsoever!
Marcello:I visited my dealer yesterday and I told him "bad stuff about the avant and the production halt". He (and his boss) did not have any clue... After looking up on the intranet they discovered the alert from B&O... I will be waiting too - no rush whatsoever!
BeoNut since '75
I wonder how many B&O buyers are like us... That is to say, knowing more than the salespeople? Doing our research before purchasing, taking our time, etc. I remember when I purchased my first piece of kit around 2000. It was a new Beosound 9000 from a store in Greenwich, CT. I became pretty good acquaintances with the store manager after that. He said, I knew more about master linking and B&O history than his sales people did. I think that can be said about most of us.
At least from my experience, most salespeople I have encountered enjoy a knowledegable customer (when the knowledge is appropriately displayed, not cocky). Just thought I'd share my thoughts.
So Moxxey's having second thoughts ?
Looks like I was proven right after all
KMA
B&O product history since 1991: Ridiculously long to list in a signature.
Bno really needed to come off the blocks like speedy gonzalez on this one , instead they seem to have crashed and burned.
New avant ? give me a break
I think they where quite quick in temporarily stopping production to look into the problem. For car manufacturers (as an example) it takes sometimes years to do the same.
KMA: in the meanwhile B&O can churn some extra BeoRemote Ones for retail
yes ... and I even tried buying one on Saturday - but they had no part number by which to order
(should be a shelf item !)
I like it, but I wish it was as "solid" i.e. heavy / hefty as the Beo4
SWMBO is concerned she won't find the right buttons in the dark ....
It´s very notably when watching a football game where half the field is in bright light and half is in shadow. Keep us posted!
elephant:yes ... and I even tried buying one on Saturday - but they had no part number by which to order (should be a shelf item !) I like it, but I wish it was as "solid" i.e. heavy / hefty as the Beo4 SWMBO is concerned she won't find the right buttons in the dark .... The Essence of B&O is discretion in design and life