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vlohjr1 replied on Sat, May 1 2021 1:08 PM
I wonder if 1 pair of 28 is good enough can replace 2 pairs of 18s in a cinema set up?
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CB replied on Sat, May 1 2021 1:26 PM
A larger pizza may replace several small pizzas, but does one larger plate replace several small plates ?

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Thanks, Curly. It's not really going to bother him. I was just slightly confused as some of the early reviews of the Lab 28s stated they could be connected to a Contour, which contradicted what I thought.

I’m still waiting for a definite reply for this from B&O. If the bl28 through mozart could turn the contour into a center+2 setup, i’d be game for contour plus bl28. Any hope this will eventually / potentially happen?
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Curly:

Correct, sadly.

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There is a long lasting rumour that with the new Mozart platform it will be possible to have surround sound. But there is still a surround decoder needed, hence the Contour will not do this.

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How do you think the Beolab 28 will function as front left and right in a 5.1 setup.

I am using a Marantz with Odyssee room correction which sets up all the settings for all the speakers including crossover to subwoofer.

Now, the 28 has its own room correction and no separate subwoofer.

Is this likely to cause an issue for the overall setup?

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Sandyb replied on Sat, May 1 2021 3:17 PM

my dealer told me this week that anything on the Mozart platform will be able to be used as surround speakers.

That functionality though is, from what he said, close to 18 months away.

Whether the Contour fits into that, I dont know.

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1990 replied on Sat, May 1 2021 3:59 PM

Countour is not on the Mozart platform so I wouldn’t bet on it.

I guess this feature will need a Mozart enabled television / centre speaker. I guess all products will transition to Mozart in the coming years.

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Sandyb:

my dealer told me this week that anything on the Mozart platform will be able to be used as surround speakers.

That functionality though is, from what he said, close to 18 months away.

Whether the Contour fits into that, I dont know.

Current Stage/Contour is not built on the Mozart platform.

I doubt that that will take 18 months.

Maybe when a Contour 55 will come - that would be perfect timing.

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Sandyb replied on Sat, May 1 2021 4:18 PM

indeed, I dont take these time frame estimates literally to be honest.

I think his point was that its a good deal down the road map for Mozart development

Good that its on the roadmap, but it won't be the first thing at all to be delivered.

Network Link (or Speaker Link as it is to be called) will be first, and thats seemingly slipping towards the end of this year.

So I wouldn't expect the surround capability for quite a while.

 

Millemissen:

Sandyb:

my dealer told me this week that anything on the Mozart platform will be able to be used as surround speakers.

That functionality though is, from what he said, close to 18 months away.

Whether the Contour fits into that, I dont know.

Current Stage/Contour is not built on the Mozart platform.

I doubt that that will take 18 months.

Maybe when a Contour 55 will come - that would be perfect timing.

MM

 

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vlohjr1 replied on Sat, May 1 2021 4:27 PM
Tifoso48:

How do you think the Beolab 28 will function as front left and right in a 5.1 setup.

I am using a Marantz with Odyssee room correction which sets up all the settings for all the speakers including crossover to subwoofer.

Now, the 28 has its own room correction and no separate subwoofer.

Is this likely to cause an issue for the overall setup?

I was thinking more that in a normal house I don’t see that much benefit with a conventional 5.1. I was hoping that with the 28 I would get a decent virtual surround plus good listening music sound
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vlohjr1:

I was thinking more that in a normal house I don’t see that much benefit with a conventional 5.1. I was hoping that with the 28 I would get a decent virtual surround plus good listening music sound

I would not want to be without my (two) 5.1 B&O setups - and I certainly don’t live  in an ‘unnormal house’.

If you don’t need it, that is fine - it is however a fact that you won’t get ‘a decent virtual surround’ from the 28’s....in fact you won’t get anything but 2 channel stereo (which is absolutely fine).

If you want something ‘smallish’ for ‘virtual surround’, you need the Stage - but then again maybe that is not enough for your music listening.

A 5.1 setup in a ‘normal house’ does not need to be a huge setup - and can be the perfect combination for 2 channel and multichannel/surround listening.

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Carolpa replied on Sat, May 1 2021 5:03 PM

Millemissen:
and I certainly don’t live  in an ‘unnormal house’.
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Every BV deserves a multichannel setup ;-))

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vlohjr1 replied on Sat, May 1 2021 6:06 PM
Millemissen:

Every BV deserves a multichannel setup ;-))

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1990 replied on Sat, May 1 2021 8:03 PM

Sandyb:

Network Link (or Speaker Link as it is to be called) will be first, and thats seemingly slipping towards the end of this year.


Do you know more about this? Looking at the choice of words there will be no integrated streaming service (Deezer) but just a Join/multiroom experience? Moving away from selecting your music through a B&O interface. Very curious how this will play with the BLI/BLGW.

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Sandyb replied on Sat, May 1 2021 9:10 PM

I dont really I'm afraid.

It seems to me that native streaming from B&O products has gone, B&O Radio aside.

From what I understand Tidal and Roon have been in touch with B&O asking about inclusion - though whether that goes anywhere, who knows. If that ends up anywhere, I suspect it will be Tidal Connect for example, rather than native integrated Tidal. 

And as you suggest, this does suggest that B&O app as interface has been relegated. We've discussed this many times before - a decision was made well over two years ago to prioritise AP and CC as primary controls i.e whichever streaming app you use.  In light of this, no surprise that native streaming has gone.

I dont expect it to return, but it does raise a question about all the value added that we gained in the past from very B&O'esque controls like the Essence remotes, simple tap to join gestures etc etc.  

If experiences are always started from a mobile device 3rd party streaming app, what really can an Essence remote, BR One, Halo do to start something from scratch.  I have no idea really - and this seems the disconnect which many are struggling to reconcile.

I hope something is possible - even my Linn streamer unit and remote has 6 my buttons which can trigger Qobuz (or Tidal) playlists, albums, radio stations, songs etc......so something is clearly possible in concert with music services.

Its just a question of whether B&O is willing and able to go there.

I also just so think the BLI / GW is any sort of priority for them now - they'll rely on Khimo to fill the gap, and provide skills that can tie together streaming stuff with B&O products.

 

 

 

1990:

Sandyb:

Network Link (or Speaker Link as it is to be called) will be first, and thats seemingly slipping towards the end of this year.


Do you know more about this? Looking at the choice of words there will be no integrated streaming service (Deezer) but just a Join/multiroom experience? Moving away from selecting your music through a B&O interface. Very curious how this will play with the BLI/BLGW.

 

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BeoJosh replied on Sat, May 1 2021 10:00 PM

I hope Deezer (and potentially Tidal and/or Roon) integration will come to BL28, and other Mozart products when the software is updated later this year, as I prefer playing music on my speakers through Deezer Hifi. Of course, I’m the only one in the family who does so—my wife and kids use AP.

FWIW, I am ordering a pair of 28s in anthracite. They will be connected through a Harmony, so I’ll be able to use Deezer that way. I’d considered doing bespoke, but decided I didn’t want to wait or pay extra. They should be delivered/installed in late June/early July along with a pair of 50s I have on order. Looking forward to them!

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Sandyb replied on Sat, May 1 2021 10:46 PM

well that'll be some mighty setup!

I wouldn't expect any progress or clarity (on whether services get integrated back in) for quite a while.

I can see nothing that dealers have indicated to forum members which would suggest Deezer or anything else is going to be re-integrated.

 

BeoJosh:

I hope Deezer (and potentially Tidal and/or Roon) integration will come to BL28, and other Mozart products when the software is updated later this year, as I prefer playing music on my speakers through Deezer Hifi. Of course, I’m the only one in the family who does so—my wife and kids use AP.

FWIW, I am ordering a pair of 28s in anthracite. They will be connected through a Harmony, so I’ll be able to use Deezer that way. I’d considered doing bespoke, but decided I didn’t want to wait or pay extra. They should be delivered/installed in late June/early July along with a pair of 50s I have on order. Looking forward to them!

 

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beolion replied on Sat, May 1 2021 11:14 PM
I went to see the BL28 today and I was very impressed.

Both from the sound perspective as well as the features and the B&O touch with design and the “curtains”.

My next music system will most likely be a pair of BLs.

And with the Mozart speakers I now feel that we (finally) have a clear direction that B&O has taken. Earlier years we have seen various different connectivities much to my own frustration.

I would also prefer that B&O could offer multiple services but I have no idea of the possibility nor the license implications.

And we got a good explanation from Mr Andersen why Spotify is not embedded in the App.

I really like their current offerings. Best in many years.

Even my son (18 years) really likes the TVs, speakers (as well as the Shape) and especially the headsets. He is looking foreword to try the new Portal. Like me when I was 18 in the good old Lewis days.

I am looking forward to see more existing products from B&O. Especially now.

Hopefully a soundbar that will also support external speakers will come. Based on Mozart of course.

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Tifoso48 replied on Sun, May 2 2021 12:31 AM

Hi M,

I went this afternoon for a "look see" and to check out if there was going to be conflict using the BL 28 as the front speakers in a 5.1 set up.

The 28's have their own room "adjustment" system built in and I was very concerned that would clash with the 5.1 Odyssee system provided by my Marantz AVR.

I saw and played around with the BL 28 app and saw that you can turn the room adjustment off which would mean that the Marantz would be providing the guidance.

Now the only thing I need to figure out is the issue of the subwoofer. I am currently using BL 18 and Bl 19 and the Odyssee room adaption creates the crossover for all speakers below a certain frequency to the subwoofer.

I am trying to figure out what will happen in a world where there is no separate subwoofer as the BL 28's certainly provide more than enough bass. 

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Tifoso48 replied on Sun, May 2 2021 12:31 AM

Hi M,

I went this afternoon for a "look see" and to check out if there was going to be conflict using the BL 28 as the front speakers in a 5.1 set up.

The 28's have their own room "adjustment" system built in and I was very concerned that would clash with the 5.1 Odyssee system provided by my Marantz AVR.

I saw and played around with the BL 28 app and saw that you can turn the room adjustment off which would mean that the Marantz would be providing the guidance.

Now the only thing I need to figure out is the issue of the subwoofer. I am currently using BL 18 and Bl 19 and the Odyssee room adaption creates the crossover for all speakers below a certain frequency to the subwoofer.

I am trying to figure out what will happen in a world where there is no separate subwoofer as the BL 28's certainly provide more than enough bass. 

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Curly replied on Sun, May 2 2021 1:27 AM

Just a nit picky comment...

Initially, the marketing collateral indicated BL28 had the acoustic lens technology (ALT). I was examining the speaker, trying to find where the lens was hidden! I was confused. It’s a pretty obvious physical component... but it was nowhere in sight.

They’ve revised their website and collateral now—no ALT. 

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BeoJosh replied on Sun, May 2 2021 3:48 AM

Yes, I kept wondering where the ALT fit in based on that description, but having heard them the high range is quite impressive even without. 

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Millemissen:

Current Stage/Contour is not built on the Mozart platform.

I doubt that that will take 18 months.

Maybe when a Contour 55 will come - that would be perfect timing.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I really hope B&O would release info about this feature. If mozart allows to be a surround processor (stage / contour / etc) and allow mozart speakers to be satellites, this would be quite a massive new feature.

I’ll eventually buy a contour and a harmony. But i’m waiting for some news on what mozart will bring. I don’t want to make such investment and a few months later the whole audio architecture moves to the next generation. I don’t mind smaller changes (adding / removing radio, deezer, dlna), but i don’t want my audio system to be so outdated.

If mozart indeed allows to build a surround speakers with mozart speakers, this would be quite a game changer and innovative. it currently only be done via wisa (requiring wisa compatible speakers) or via sonos (in an all sonos setup). mozart would basically bring b&o at the same technology level as sonos, which would be huge…
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Sandyb replied on Sun, May 2 2021 7:20 AM
steve1977:

I really hope B&O would release info about this feature. If mozart allows to be a surround processor (stage / contour / etc) and allow mozart speakers to be satellites, this would be quite a massive new feature.

I’ll eventually buy a contour and a harmony. But i’m waiting for some news on what mozart will bring. I don’t want to make such investment and a few months later the whole audio architecture moves to the next generation. I don’t mind smaller changes (adding / removing radio, deezer, dlna), but i don’t want my audio system to be so outdated.

If mozart indeed allows to build a surround speakers with mozart speakers, this would be quite a game changer and innovative. it currently only be done via wisa (requiring wisa compatible speakers) or via sonos (in an all sonos setup). mozart would basically bring b&o at the same technology level as sonos, which would be huge…

You won’t get any announcement in advance of implementation

Was there any pre announcement of Mozart? No

Was there any clarification in advance of the Balance of the changes that Mozart would bring to even a one point speaker?

In addition, I’ve been told that the surround function will be closer to 18 months away.

To those who recoil at such a long timeframe, remember it will be closer to 2 years from the Balance release by the time the much promised NL is added back.

Agreed that Mozart surround is a big positive, but I’d adjust any expectations accordingly
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Desrux replied on Sun, May 2 2021 8:38 AM

Glad to see Spotify Connect, and I do not care about lack of Deezer.

But missing Beolink Multiroom and Touch to Join 😩

 

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BeoJosh:

I hope Deezer (and potentially Tidal and/or Roon) integration will come to BL28, and other Mozart products when the software is updated later this year, as I prefer playing music on my speakers through Deezer Hifi. Of course, I’m the only one in the family who does so—my wife and kids use AP.

FWIW, I am ordering a pair of 28s in anthracite. They will be connected through a Harmony, so I’ll be able to use Deezer that way. I’d considered doing bespoke, but decided I didn’t want to wait or pay extra. They should be delivered/installed in late June/early July along with a pair of 50s I have on order. Looking forward to them!

Concrats to you! Share a picture when all is installed please. Did you order the brass 50’s?

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steve1977:
Millemissen:

 

Current Stage/Contour is not built on the Mozart platform.

 

I doubt that that will take 18 months.

 

Maybe when a Contour 55 will come - that would be perfect timing.

 

MM

 

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

 

 

 

I really hope B&O would release info about this feature. If mozart allows to be a surround processor (stage / contour / etc) and allow mozart speakers to be satellites, this would be quite a massive new feature.

 

 

I’ll eventually buy a contour and a harmony. But i’m waiting for some news on what mozart will bring. I don’t want to make such investment and a few months later the whole audio architecture moves to the next generation. I don’t mind smaller changes (adding / removing radio, deezer, dlna), but i don’t want my audio system to be so outdated.

 

 

If mozart indeed allows to build a surround speakers with mozart speakers, this would be quite a game changer and innovative. it currently only be done via wisa (requiring wisa compatible speakers) or via sonos (in an all sonos setup). mozart would basically bring b&o at the same technology level as sonos, which would be huge…

Hard to say how long you will have to wait - and honestly we have no precise information about what is going to happen or when.

All I say is, that I see the options/possibilities with the Mozart platform.

(Obviously I am a bit more optimistic than e.g. Sandyb).

I am not sure, that you should wait with a purchase (depending on what you currently have).

Maybe you should just enjoy a Contour as it is now - I am sure that you can sell that for a good price in a year or two or.........

 

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steve1977 replied on Sun, May 2 2021 10:25 AM
Millemissen:

Hard to say how long you will have to wait - and honestly we have no precise information about what is going to happen or when.

All I say is, that I see the options/possibilities with the Mozart platform.

(Obviously I am a bit more optimistic than e.g. Sandyb).

I am not sure, that you should wait with a purchase (depending on what you currently have).

Maybe you should just enjoy a Contour as it is now - I am sure that you can sell that for a good price in a year or two or.........

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I could indeed probably buy & sell a contour. or even could buy a horizon, which is rather cheap second hand and not too bad either. But that’s the part where i have less need for change. I’m quite tempted to pull the trigger faster with the harmony for the living room though.

But i’d really hate to see if i spend such an amount and will be limited to wisa speakers for wireless connection, while a horizon mk2 may support to connect all mozart speakers wireless.

I’m thinking to keep the harmony for 10+ years, but eventually switch or upgrade speakers.

If mozart indeed gets “sonos equivalent” surround capabilities, this would probably the biggest software innovation b&o innovation has ever done. And as big of a step as going from ml to nl.
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Fansastic replied on Sun, May 2 2021 11:03 AM
steve1977:

I could indeed probably buy & sell a contour. or even could buy a horizon, which is rather cheap second hand and not too bad either. But that’s the part where i have less need for change. I’m quite tempted to pull the trigger faster with the harmony for the living room though.

But i’d really hate to see if i spend such an amount and will be limited to wisa speakers for wireless connection, while a horizon mk2 may support to connect all mozart speakers wireless.

I’m thinking to keep the harmony for 10+ years, but eventually switch or upgrade speakers.

If mozart indeed gets “sonos equivalent” surround capabilities, this would probably the biggest software innovation b&o innovation has ever done. And as big of a step as going from ml to nl.

But with a Harmony and wisa beolabs you have the best setup imaginable, even when the Mozart platform proofs to do surround speakers with other single point speakers. You can stream everything to your Harmony. Personally I would always like to use a BV as main music / surround source to drive my BL’s. The way you can tweak al kinds of settings is unparalleled and I do not think this can be done with Mozart platform (or it should be for future beovisions driven by Mozart OS).

So I see a Harmony as a more clever investment then the Contour, even further into the future. Especially because the Harmony can swap panels in future.

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steve1977 replied on Sun, May 2 2021 11:23 AM
Fansastic:

But with a Harmony and wisa beolabs you have the best setup imaginable, even when the Mozart platform proofs to do surround speakers with other single point speakers. You can stream everything to your Harmony. Personally I would always like to use a BV as main music / surround source to drive my BL’s. The way you can tweak al kinds of settings is unparalleled and I do not think this can be done with Mozart platform (or it should be for future beovisions driven by Mozart OS).

So I see a Harmony as a more clever investment then the Contour, even further into the future. Especially because the Harmony can swap panels in future.l

If i’d be confident that your statement is true, i’d probably already bought the harmony some months ago.

It could be ML / BS3 -> NL / BS4 -> Mozart / BS5

Future beolab may no longer support wisa. And no speakers may also not be supported.

Also when it comes to my choices for speakers for the horizon, my best bet today would be the bl50, which is (1) fairly pricey, (2) a bit too large for my place / liking. The bl90 for sure doesn’t fit in my place. The bl18 is an option, but never found it as nice as the iconic bl8000 (which don’t have wisa). abd while i need to see the bl28 live, i’m not sure they’d cut it for me either.

I’m certain there will be several mozart speakers per year coming up. For example i could connect four “mozart bs2” to the horizon.

And even if you’d say that a pair of bl50 will be better than 4 bs2, i’d still don’t like the idea of buying a horizon and being left in a few months with an outdated technology (even if 18 months as someone heard below).
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Sandyb replied on Sun, May 2 2021 11:55 AM

What speakers would you like for surround duties?

My intuition is that from some time (probably late) next year, the Harmony (and whatever other BV's are in the range at that time) will be Mozart based.

That should allow connection to Beolabs (wired or wireless) and Beosounds (i.e one point speakers).

How non Mozart BV's are treated - software update to Mozart wise - is anyones guess (mine would be no, they dont get updated to Mozart).

I'd expect the Stage (or whatever is the equivalent at the time) will be shipped / sold as Mozart enabled too (i.e as a MK2)

But in the end, if you want a BV and the ability to use single point speakers as surrounds, you've got quite a wait ahead of you. 

Your gamble now is hoping a new Harmony (for example) now will get updated to Mozart, so you can get started now. But I'd rate the chance of a Mozart update as no higher than 30%.

There will be MK2 (i.e. Mozart enabled) versions of the current products they want to continue with, all else new will ship with Mozart.

 

steve1977:
Millemissen:

 

Current Stage/Contour is not built on the Mozart platform.

 

I doubt that that will take 18 months.

 

Maybe when a Contour 55 will come - that would be perfect timing.

 

MM

 

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

 

 

 

I really hope B&O would release info about this feature. If mozart allows to be a surround processor (stage / contour / etc) and allow mozart speakers to be satellites, this would be quite a massive new feature.

 

 

I’ll eventually buy a contour and a harmony. But i’m waiting for some news on what mozart will bring. I don’t want to make such investment and a few months later the whole audio architecture moves to the next generation. I don’t mind smaller changes (adding / removing radio, deezer, dlna), but i don’t want my audio system to be so outdated.

 

 

If mozart indeed allows to build a surround speakers with mozart speakers, this would be quite a game changer and innovative. it currently only be done via wisa (requiring wisa compatible speakers) or via sonos (in an all sonos setup). mozart would basically bring b&o at the same technology level as sonos, which would be huge…

 

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Not knowing anything - so just speculating - I’d find it more likely that they keep the Harmony/Eclipse as is untill later.

First thing to do would be to upgrade the Stage/Contour to the Mozart platform - this way making it possible to add the new (Mozart-based) speakers as surround speakers......of course after the release of the NL/speaker link/multiroom function for those.

The Harmony/Eclipse is WiSA enabled for a lot of those speakers, that owners of these BV’s will prefer to use - means there already is a wireless platform for additional speakers.

With the Stage/Contour it would make a difference and it would generate sales of extra speakers (like the Balance and what may come) fitting into a somewhat smaller setup.

Let’s see what comes........very exciting times. indeed..

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Sandyb replied on Sun, May 2 2021 9:14 PM

agreed,  I dont think there will be any hurry to update Eclipse / Harmony to Mozart versions any time soon. Eventually new BVs will be I imagine.

And yes, I'd imagine the Stage changes to a Mozart Stage first.

Its been such a busy release schedule for them over the last few months, its not unreasonable to expect things to quieten down somewhat.

 

Millemissen:

Not knowing anything - so just speculating - I’d find it more likely that they keep the Harmony/Eclipse as is untill later.

First thing to do would be to upgrade the Stage/Contour to the Mozart platform - this way making it possible to add the new (Mozart-based) speakers as surround speakers......of course after the release of the NL/speaker link/multiroom function for those.

The Harmony/Eclipse is WiSA enabled for a lot of those speakers, that owners of these BV’s will prefer to use - means there already is a wireless platform for additional speakers.

With the Stage/Contour it would make a difference and it would generate sales of extra speakers (like the Balance and what may come) fitting into a somewhat smaller setup.

Let’s see what comes........very exciting times. indeed..

MM

 

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I went yesterday afternoon to my local B&O dealer to see and audition the new BL 28.

I was very pleasantly surprised that " in person" they look infinitely more attractive than in the photos - I really liked them.

I have also concluded that I would prefer straight up and down rather than the bass unit being mounted on the wall. 

I got the opportunity to play around a bit with the app and there are clearly lots of opportunities to tweak the sound based on certain " moods" as well as enabling/disabling the room adaption system.

Streaming to these speakers either by bluetooth or apple play is a breeze and the labels opening and closing really provides additional visual appeal. 

No complaint about the sound, although at times the bass was a bit over the top, quite boomy. However, I would imagine that a different setting could solve that issue.

My current set up is a BL 18 and 19, and I am not sure if the BL 28 is heads and shoulders better - something I will need to consider in greater detail before making a decision. 

However, my biggest question mark is whether the bass unit in BL 28 can take on the role of the BL 19 in my 5.1 home theater set up.

If my requirement was for attractive, entertaining and  freestanding speakers that I want to use to simply stream music to - we would be done and I think they would be absolutely brilliant in that role.

Unfortunately, I have a bit of a complex set up and will need to ponder this a bit further.

However, without doubt these are exceptionally nice speakers and congratulations to Bang & Olufsen! 

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Curly replied on Mon, May 3 2021 1:03 AM

A handful of folks saying the bass on BL28 is out of control...

Nothing some EQ can’t fix, I imagine. 

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Puncher replied on Mon, May 3 2021 6:34 PM

Curly:

A handful of folks saying the bass on BL28 is out of control...

Nothing some EQ can’t fix, I imagine. 

Why have them set like this in the showroom?

Do normal people still like speakers to sound like this once they've grown up?

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Daniel replied on Mon, May 3 2021 6:41 PM
I popped in to a B&O store just a few minutes before they closed for the day, but could see and listen to BL 28. I really liked them! Very cool and good looking speakers, with an impressive sound. A big plus for the moving wood. It felt B&O all the way.
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1990:

Sandyb:

Network Link (or Speaker Link as it is to be called) will be first, and thats seemingly slipping towards the end of this year.


Do you know more about this? Looking at the choice of words there will be no integrated streaming service (Deezer) but just a Join/multiroom experience? Moving away from selecting your music through a B&O interface. Very curious how this will play with the BLI/BLGW.

This is the only thing I have read on this page How can I play music in different rooms with Beolab 28?

"Beolink will become available in the second half of 2021 through a simple software update" 


https://support.bang-olufsen.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019772238-How-can-I-play-music-in-different-rooms-with-Beolab-28- 

 

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moxxey replied on Tue, May 4 2021 8:01 AM

Millemissen:

First thing to do would be to upgrade the Stage/Contour to the Mozart platform - this way making it possible to add the new (Mozart-based) speakers as surround speakers......of course after the release of the NL/speaker link/multiroom function for those.

My dealer told me in January this year he was expecting an upgraded Stage MK2 or even a more expensive Stage+ which would enable people to connect additional B&O speakers. Makes sense. I'd certainly jump at this opportunity. Stage would become your centre speaker I guess. Plus you could add a sub!

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